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Nuru'd-din Bin Sabbagh Maliki in his Fusulu'l- Muhimma, Fasl I, p.14:

"No one before Ali was born in the Ka'ba. This was a distinction given to Ali in order to enhance his honor, rank, and dignity."

[People reported to be born in the Kaaba]
Or one may mention the last dialogues between Sa'sa'a bin Sohan and Imam Ali (AS) before Imam's death:

Sa'sa'a said to Ali: "Let me know who is superior, you or Adam." The Holy Imam said: "It is not proper for a man to praise himself, but according to the maxim: 'Declare the blessings that Allah has given you,' I tell you that I am superior to Adam." When asked why this was so, Ali explained that Adam had every means of mercy, comfort, and blessings for him in paradise. He was asked simply to abstain from the forbidden food. But he could not restrain himself, and he ate from the tree. As a result, he was expelled from paradise. Allah did not forbid him, Ali, from eating wheat (which, according to Muslim belief was the forbidden 'tree'). But since he had no inclination towards this temporal world, he voluntarily refrained from eating wheat. (The point of Ali's remark was that excellence of a man before Allah lies in piety and devotion, and that the height of piety lies in abstaining even from what is permissible.)

[...]Sa'sa'a asked: "Who is superior, you or Jesus?" Ali said: "I am superior, for when Mary became pregnant by the Grace of Allah, and the time of her delivery approached, a revelation was granted to her: 'Leave this holy House for this is a House for prayers, not a place for the delivery of children.' Accordingly, she left the holy House and went to the wilderness where she gave birth to Jesus. But when my mother, Fatima Bint-e-Asad, felt labor pains within the precincts of the holy Ka'ba, she clung to the wall and prayed to Allah in the name of that House and the builder of that House, to lessen her pain. Soon a fissure appeared in the wall, and my mother heard a mysterious voice telling her, "O Fatima! Enter the House of the Ka'ba.' She went in, and I was born inside of the holy Ka'ba."

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 The Book: PESHAWAR NIGHTS  
 By: Sultanu'l-Wa'izin Shirazi  
 Translated by: Hamid Quinlan and Charles Ali Campbell  
 Published 1996 by Pak Books, P.O. Box EE, Palisades, NY 10964
Or even one may point at the crack on the wall of Kaaba, which is on the other(opposite) side of al-Hajar al-Aswad (the black stone) and unfortunately our Muslim brothers don't let us take photo of it.

But I just want to ask this question from those ones who deny the birth of Imam Ali(Alaihis Salaam) inside Kaaba:

If Imam Ali(AS) was not born inside Kaaba then would you tell me where else was he born? And provide me authenticate documents about it?

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I don't think the last line of this is a robust defence of a claim - that reverses, invalidly, the usual "burden of proof". –  Marc Gravell♦ Sep 2 '12 at 6:23
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-1 as ref given from a book printed in 1996 in pakistan (makes it most unreliable). I still have trouble believing hazrat ali(ra) would answer questions like "whose greater?" with answers like "me" . –  islam101 Sep 4 '12 at 4:07
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@islam101 - The book mentioned is what I found available on the net in English, of course not the only and ever reference. The rest I know are in Persian. –  Ezati Sep 4 '12 at 8:40
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This is a decent answer, although the last two sentences are quite antagonistic. Be nice, it's part of our FAQ. –  ashes999 Sep 9 '12 at 10:45
 
@Ezati - you're free to keep the answer the way you like, but here's my two cents: On Stack Exchange the preferred way to do things is to answer the question that is asked and stay away from everything else. Your last two lines just don't belong in the answer. They assume an antagonistic and defensive posture and ask another question. If you like, you can make that another question. I presume this is the reason for a lot of the downvotes (not me though). –  Ansari♦ Sep 9 '12 at 16:18
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Actually this claim of Hazrat Ali being born in Kaba is just a part of a larger sinister campaign which happened around the time of civil wars after the demise of Hazrat Ali . A bunch of hypocrites wanted muslims to leave Islam by hook or by crook and it was just not possible to make them indulge in Idolatry or Shirk. It was decided by someone to exaggerate the status of Hazrat Ali slowly and steadily and finally declare Hazrat Ali to be God incarnate. Even Ali himself was aware of this sinister plan of the hypocrites which infuriated Hazrat Ali to such an extent that he tortured some of these hypocrites with fire and killed them slowly. The hypocrites were large in number and are long dead but their deeds and their traditions are flowing to this day and this is just one of those stories they concocted to ratify their claims that only God can be born in house of God(May Allah forgive!)

And that the mosques are Allah's, therefore call not upon any one with Allah:
[72:19] And that when the servant of Allah stood up calling upon Him, they wellnigh crowded him (to death).
[72:20] Say: I only call upon my Lord, and I do not associate any one with Him.
[72:21] Say: I do not control for you evil or good.
[72:22] Say: Surely no one can protect me against Allah, nor can I find besides Him any place of refuge:
[72:23] (It is) only a delivering (of communications) from Allah and His messages; and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger surely he shall have the fire of hell to abide therein for a long time.
In Surat al-Fatihah, we as Muslims regularly recite iyyaka nasta'een, translated as "You [i.e. God] alone we ask for help..." In addition, all of the verses in the Qura'n where du'a is asked is addressed to Allah alone (e.g. rabbi zid ni 'ilma in Surat Ta-Ha).

As such, it seems rather clear to me that invocation is to be for God alone, and that calling upon others is a form of shirk.

I find that amongst modern Shi'a (I can't comment on historical Shi'ism) and Barelvi Sufis there are many who seem to go against this idea. Using the Shi'a as an example, many of them directly invoke Ali for help (e.g. "Ya Ali madad"), which to me is no different than a Christian saying "Jesus is our Savior".

How can such behaviour be justified Islamically?

Please do not confuse the focus of this question with that of wasilah, as the issue of wasilah IS DIFFERENT than direct invocation to other then ALLAH swt. The Qur'an does command to seek a LEGAL wasilah (i.e through good deeds and following Sunnah and naufil of the prophet pbuh)

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